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Wednesday, April 23, 2003
20:11 - The Unconquerable Made-Up Mind

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Fresh Air with Terry Gross tonight had as a guest Jonathan Schell, author of The Unconquerable World: Power, Nonviolence, and the Will of the People. I don't know anything about this author, other than that the people who bought his book from Amazon.com also bought books by Gore Vidal and Susan Sontag, so I can render a guess as to the bent of his opinion.

Which, during the course of the few bits of the conversation that I heard at stop lights (I had the radio turned down so I could ponder more important things, like what video rental places might still have Nerds Ropes), appeared to be that the war in Iraq is a demonstration of the new US attitude toward conquering the world, which we would never be able to do because of the indomitable will of whatever people we try to subjugate with our reversals of worldwide masterpieces of diplomacy like the ABM treaty and our new decision to solve the problems of WMD with force and aggression and pre-emption rather than with words.

Terry actually challenged him on that, saying that wasn't the whole point of this war that treaties and diplomacy had failed? And he stuttered for a bit, seemingly taken aback; but then he went off on a tirade that went something like this (I'm not quoting exactly, but this is as closely as I can recall it):

At least North Korea publicly stated that they were backing out of the ABM treaty; we, instead, have simply reversed our policy, and are re-arming for a new nuclear-armed world. Our people at STRATCOM are seeking out and designating new nuclear targets in Iraq and elsewhere as we speak. And the Bush administration made a statement early in this war that said that if the Iraqis should use chemical or biologcal weapons against the American troops, then we would use "any force necessary" in response-- which, of course, is diplomatese for "nuclear weapons". And we should also realize that the US is more aggressively developing nuclear weapons today than ever before; now we've got these so-called "bunker busters", which, uh, can take out certain underground installations. These "bunker busters" are nuclear weapons which further demonstrate that the US is committed to a double standard regarding weapons of mass destruction and who should be permitted to use them.

Gee. Really? We dropped four of these puppies on a restaurant and turned it into a rubble-and-Saddam-parts-filled crater, and the buildings right next to it were barely damaged. Damn, that's what our nukes can do these days?

This guy has not the faintest idea what "bunker busters" are, and he's writing books about war and diplomacy and going on NPR to talk about them to audiences of millions. What's wrong with this picture?

Maybe I should order a transcript of this show; there's probably lots more juicy material in there to work with.

UPDATE: Hmm. But then, as Matt tells me, there's the RNEP, a nuclear version of exsting bunker-busters that is apparently being developed. Somehow, though, I suspect that this only makes Schell correct by accident...

UPDATE: Actually Schell talked about the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, not the ABM treaty; my bad. The stream of the interview is here; the part I was paraphrasing above is between 16:30 and 20:00.

Hey, c'mon, it was from memory.


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